对亚历山德里亚·奥卡西奥-科尔特斯有什么合理的批评吗? Jarred Dunn 做出了回答

2020-11-19 14:01

Are there any valid criticisms of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez? dL7世界播

对亚历山德里亚·奥卡西奥-科尔特斯有什么合理的批评吗?dL7世界播


Answered by: Jarred Dunn,studied History at The University of Texas at Austin dL7世界播

回答者:Jarred Dunn,曾在德克萨斯大学奥斯汀分校(University Of Texas At Austin)学习历史dL7世界播


On January 6, 2019, the long-running news program 60 Minutes aired an in-depth interview with Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. dL7世界播

2019年1月6日,长时间播出的新闻节目《60分钟》播出了对国会女议员亚历山德里亚·奥卡西奥-科尔特斯的深度采访。dL7世界播


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Photo: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., attends a House Oversight Committee hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington. July 26, 2019. Ocasio-Cortez: Biden needs a ‘real’ health care plan dL7世界播

图片:纽约州民主党众议员亚历山德里亚·奥卡西奥-科尔特斯(Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez)在华盛顿国会山出席众议院监督委员会听证会。2019年7月26日。奥卡西奥-科尔特斯:拜登需要一个“真正的”医疗保健计划。dL7世界播


Ocasio-Cortez had just been sworn in as a new member of Congress. She had already gained considerable attention due to her outspoken criticism of President Trump, and her support of the Green New Deal, universal health care, and tuition-free college. dL7世界播

奥卡西奥-科尔特斯刚刚宣誓就任国会新议员。由于她对特朗普总统的直言不讳的批评,以及她对绿色新政、全民医保和免费大学的支持,她已经获得了相当大的关注。dL7世界播


She had also amassed a verifiable record of false statements. dL7世界播

她还积累了一份可以核实的虚假陈述记录。dL7世界播


During the 60 Minutes interview, Anderson Cooper asked the rookie congresswoman about a recent fact-check in The Washington Post. In an eye-popping claim, Ocasio-Cortez said that the Pentagon’s $21 trillion in accounting errors would already pay for two-thirds of the proposed “Medicare for All” plan. dL7世界播

在《60分钟》的采访中,安德森·库珀向这位新手女议员询问了《华盛顿邮报》最近的一项事实核查。在一份令人瞠目结舌的声明中,奥卡西奥-科尔特斯说,五角大楼21万亿美元的会计错误已经支付了拟议中的“全民医疗保险”计划的三分之二。dL7世界播


According to the Post (and multiple other mainstream fact-checkers), this claim was not true. dL7世界播

根据《华盛顿邮报》(以及其他多家主流事实核查机构)的说法,这一说法并不属实。dL7世界播


The problem with what Ocasio-Cortez said: The $21 trillion figure refers to a cumulative amount of individual transactions — including some double- and triple-counting — not a single pot of money that was misspent. dL7世界播

奥卡西奥-科尔特斯所说的问题是:21万亿美元这个数字指的是个人交易的累计金额-包括一些重复和三次计算-没有一笔钱被浪费。dL7世界播


One tip-off is the amount of Ocasio-Cortez’s "accounting errors" is far bigger than the actual Pentagon spending from 1998 to 2015, which was $8.5 trillion. In fact, it’s also far bigger than the amount the government has spent on national security since 1940 and, in all likelihood, in the nation’s history. dL7世界播

一个提示是奥卡西奥-科尔特斯的“会计错误”的数额远远超过了从1998年到2015年五角大楼的实际开支,后者是8.5万亿美元。事实上,这也远远超过了政府自1940年以来在国家安全方面的支出,而且很可能是美国历史上的支出。dL7世界播


Of course it is not unprecedented for a politician to make false claims in pursuit of policy goals. In the interview with Cooper, however, she made a revealing statement. dL7世界播

当然,政客为了追求政策目标而做出虚假声明并非史无前例。然而,在与库珀的采访中,她发表了一份发人深省的声明。dL7世界播


From the interview transcript, in bold: dL7世界播

采访记录以粗体显示:dL7世界播


She's been accused of being dishonest about the true cost of her proposals and the tax burden they would impose on the middle class. She's also been criticized for making factual mistakes. dL7世界播

她被指责在她的提案的真实成本以及它们将给中产阶级带来的税收负担方面不诚实。她还因犯下事实错误而受到批评。dL7世界播


Anderson Cooper: One of the criticisms of you is that— that your math is fuzzy. The Washington Post recently awarded you four Pinocchios— dL7世界播

安德森·库珀:对你的批评之一是--你的数学很模糊。华盛顿邮报最近给了你四个匹诺曹-。dL7世界播


Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: Oh my goodness— dL7世界播

众议员亚历山德里亚·奥卡西奥-科尔特斯:哦,我的天-。dL7世界播


Anderson Cooper: —for misstating some statistics about Pentagon spending? dL7世界播

安德森·库珀(Anderson Cooper):-因为歪曲了五角大楼开支的一些统计数据?dL7世界播


Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: If people want to really blow up one figure here or one word there, I would argue that they're missing the forest for the trees. dL7世界播

众议员Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:如果人们真的想炸毁这里的一个人物或那里的一个词,我认为他们是在为了树木而失去森林。dL7世界播


I think that there's a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right. dL7世界播

我认为有很多人更关心准确、真实和语义上的正确,而不是道德上的正确。dL7世界播


Anderson Cooper: But being factually correct is important— dL7世界播

安德森·库珀:但事实是正确的,这一点很重要。dL7世界播


Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: It's absolutely important. And whenever I make a mistake. I say, "Okay, this was clumsy." and then I restate what my point was. But it's— it's not the same thing as— as the president lying about immigrants. It's not the same thing, at all. dL7世界播

众议员亚历山德里亚·奥卡西奥-科尔特斯:这是绝对重要的。每当我犯错的时候。我说,“好吧,这太笨拙了。”然后我重申我的观点。但这和总统在移民问题上撒谎不是一回事。这完全不是一回事。dL7世界播


In the age of Trump and his more than 20,000 lies since his inauguration, it has become exceedingly difficult to hold politicians accountable. It feels strange to attack someone like Ocasio-Cortez for making false claims, in light of an orange-hued figure that drowned us all in a torrent of falsehoods. dL7世界播

在特朗普和他自就职以来的2万多个谎言的时代,要追究政客的责任变得极其困难。攻击像奥卡西奥-科尔特斯这样的人做出虚假的声明是很奇怪的,因为一个橙色的身材让我们所有人都淹没在谎言的洪流中。dL7世界播


My criticism of the congresswoman centers on her deeply-held certainty. According to Ocasio-Cortez’s worldview, being “morally right” is far superior to being “precisely, factually, and semantically correct.” dL7世界播

我对这位女议员的批评集中在她根深蒂固的确定性上。根据奥卡西奥-科尔特斯的世界观,“道德上正确的”远远优于“精确的、事实的和语义上的正确”。dL7世界播


This is a seductive argument, one used by populists and leaders across the globe. It is also the same reasoning employed by Trump and his sycophants. dL7世界播

这是一个诱人的论点,全球各地的民粹主义者和领导人都在使用。这也是特朗普和他的马屁精们使用的同一种推理。dL7世界播


If your cause is just, then the “clumsy” use of facts and figures is not something to be vilified. dL7世界播

如果你的事业是正义的,那么“笨拙”地使用事实和数字也不是什么值得诋毁的事情。dL7世界播


Indeed, it might be something to be celebrated. dL7世界播

的确,这可能是值得庆祝的事情。dL7世界播


I see no reason why I should not demand both factually correct and morally right answers from our politicians, regardless of which political party currently holds their allegiance. dL7世界播

我看不出我有什么理由不要求我们的政治家回答事实正确和道德正确的问题,无论他们目前效忠哪个政党。dL7世界播

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