采访埃隆·马斯克是什么感觉? Alexander Zhang 这样说...

2020-10-14 15:20

What is it like to interview Elon Musk? ceR世界播

采访埃隆·马斯克是什么感觉?ceR世界播


Answered by: Alexander Zhang,Managing Director of LavaLab ceR世界播

回答者:LavaLab董事总经理亚历山大·张(Alexander Zhang)ceR世界播


Quite honestly, it was scary as hell. ceR世界播

老实说,这简直吓死人了。ceR世界播


We invited Elon Musk to attend a routine Thursday dinner and fire-side chat with our incubated teams that semester at LavaLab, USC’s student-run incubator program. Surprisingly enough, he agreed and showed up on time in his blacked out Tesla. Shocker right? He showed up on time! ceR世界播

我们邀请埃隆·马斯克(Elon Musk)参加周四的例行晚宴,并在南加州大学学生运营的孵化器项目LavaLab学期与我们孵化的团队进行炉边聊天。令人惊讶的是,他同意了,并开着他那辆熄灭的特斯拉准时出现。更令人震惊,对吧?他准时出现了!ceR世界播


I take it what you are really searching for in these answers is the overall experience, the quirks, all the nuances independent from the content James Altucher so clearly covered for us already. Below are a few of these nuances that I picked up over dinner and an interview fire-side chat with Elon Musk in October, 2014. ceR世界播

我认为你在这些答案中真正寻找的是整体体验,怪癖,所有与詹姆斯·阿尔图彻(James Altucher)已经为我们清楚地涵盖的内容无关的细微差别。以下是我在2014年10月与埃隆·马斯克(Elon Musk)共进晚餐和接受采访时在炉边聊天时发现的一些细微差别。ceR世界播


1) He’s intimidating. He’s 5’ 11” with a built frame and a head the size of my chest. Imagine a cranium large enough to hold his brain! With the boots he was wearing that night, I give him an easy 6 feet. He’s massive. He’s poised. I recall standing with him in an elevator and chuckling because here I was, a 5’7”, 140 pound, 19 year old standing next to Elon Musk and most intimidating of all was his stare. ceR世界播

1)他很吓人。他身高5英尺11英寸,身材健壮,头部和我的胸部一样大。想象一下,一个足够大的头盖骨可以容纳他的大脑!加上他那天晚上穿的靴子,我给了他6英尺的轻松距离。他块头很大。他已经准备好了。我记得我和他一起站在电梯里咯咯笑着,因为我在这里,一个身高5英尺7英寸,140磅,19岁的年轻人站在埃隆·马斯克旁边,最令人生畏的是他的凝视。ceR世界播


I base all of my conversations on facial feedback and as humans, most of us do. For example, if you and I were having a conversation and I was telling you one hell of a story, I would almost subconsciously scan your face to tell whether or not you were engaged. If all the signals pointed YES, I would milk the climax, draw out the suspense, and really put everything I had into delivering an experience. However, if your eyes were darting or you appeared disinterested, I’d quickly end our story and steer our conversation elsewhere probably asking you if you had to use the restroom. With Elon Musk however, he provides no facial feedback, just quick nods here and there and comments. As an interviewer, I had no means of gauging how the conversation was going, if he enjoyed what I was saying, or if he hated what I was saying. ceR世界播

我所有的对话都建立在面部反馈的基础上,作为人类,我们大多数人都是这样做的。例如,如果你和我在谈话,而我在给你讲一个地狱般的故事,我几乎会下意识地扫一扫你的脸,看看你是否订婚了。如果所有的信号都是肯定的,我会挤出高潮,拉出悬念,真正地把我所拥有的一切都投入到一次体验中。然而,如果你的眼神飞快,或者你看起来不感兴趣,我会很快结束我们的故事,把我们的谈话引到其他地方,可能会问你是否需要去洗手间。然而,对于埃隆·马斯克(Elon Musk),他没有提供面部反馈,只是四处快速点头和评论。作为一名面试官,我无法判断谈话进行得如何,他是否喜欢我说的话,或者他是否讨厌我说的话。ceR世界播


Before dinner, I gave him a quick tour of our co-working space, the Blackstone LaunchPad, and attempted to impress him with our 3D printed prosthetic hands and flashy arduino kits. No facial feedback. Then again, he oversees the construction of spaceships and rockets so I’ll count that one a draw. Every joke I told, every line of conversation exchanged, I could tell he was very much present but he just stared at me, or what felt like through me, as if understanding and evaluating every single word I was saying. Let me make this clear though. He’s intimidating but by no means rude. In fact, he’s got in an incredible sense of humor. ceR世界播

晚饭前,我带他快速参观了我们的合作工作区,Blackstone LaunchPad,并试图用我们的3D打印假手和华丽的Arduino套件给他留下深刻印象。没有面部反馈。话又说回来,他负责监督宇宙飞船和火箭的建造,所以我认为这是一场平局。我讲的每一个笑话,交流的每一句话,我都能看出来他非常在场,但他只是盯着我,或者通过我感觉到了什么,好像理解和评估了我说的每一个字。不过,让我把这一点说清楚。他很吓人,但绝不粗鲁。事实上,他有令人难以置信的幽默感。ceR世界播


2) Great sense of humor ceR世界播

2)很有幽默感。ceR世界播


The first thirty minutes of the fire-side chat went well, not splendid, just okay because I was so nervous and intimidated, perhaps by his lack of facial feedback, that I stiffed up and reserved my usual playful nature. However, something finally clicked. I’m sitting down and interviewing a man that will probably be written in my children’s text books and if I don’t take charge of this once in a life time opportunity, I’d be a fool. And so, I remember taking a deep breathe, loosening up my legs, and criss-crossing them in the most casual of posture. Immediately, the atmosphere changed. He loosened up, I loosened up, and the jokes began. We were all invited to experience such an incredible sense of humor, personality, and charm. ceR世界播

炉边谈话的前30分钟进行得很顺利,不是很精彩,只是还好,因为我太紧张了,太害怕了,可能是因为他缺乏面部反馈,我僵硬地站了起来,保留了我一贯的嬉戏天性。然而,终于有什么事情发生了。我正坐下来采访一个可能会写在我孩子课本上的人,如果我一生只有一次机会不负责这件事,那我就是个傻瓜。因此,我记得我深深地吸了一口气,放松了双腿,以最随意的姿势纵横交错。很快,气氛就改变了。他放松了,我放松了,笑话就开始了。我们都被邀请体验如此令人难以置信的幽默感、个性和魅力。ceR世界播


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Months later, I ran into him at an after party and we joked about a KCRW playlist he made. Song selections involve Santa Claus is Coming to Town and Fly Me to the Moon - Frank Sinatra. He really does have a unique sense of humor. ceR世界播

几个月后,我在一个售后派对上遇到了他,我们拿他制作的KCRW播放列表开玩笑。歌曲选择包括圣诞老人要来镇上,带我去月球--弗兰克·西纳特拉(Frank Sinatra)。他确实有一种独特的幽默感。ceR世界播


3) Calculated // Precise ceR世界播

3)计算//精确。ceR世界播


Paired with his astute listening abilities was an overwhelming sense of calculation and precision. Many claim that Elon isn’t the best public speaker but I disagree, he’s an incredible speaker — in the right setting. Perhaps not the most theatrical of speakers, he does however choose every word with precision and purpose. Calculation with his words and calculation with his action. He’s a man that always plans 2 steps ahead and it was clear that through his responses and stories that he isn’t one to let his emotions get the best of him. ceR世界播

伴随着他敏锐的倾听能力,是一种压倒性的计算感和精确感。许多人声称埃隆不是最好的公共演说家,但我不同意,他是一个令人难以置信的演说家-在合适的环境下。也许他不是最戏剧性的演讲者,但他确实精准而有目的地选择了每一个词。用他的话算计,用他的行动算计。他是一个总是提前计划两步的人,很明显,从他的回应和故事中可以看出,他不是一个让自己的情绪占据上风的人。ceR世界播


4) Scientific ceR世界播

4)科学性ceR世界播


Elon views himself and the world around him in the most technical and scientific of processes. One of the questions I had asked him that night was to elaborate on his theory of reductionism, boiling things down to their fundamental truths and then reasoning up from there and to provide an example of this theory in practice. From the very examples he provided of quality control to his own leadership style, he bases everything in positing hypotheses, testing them, and then moving forward from collecting data. Almost every emotional intelligence based question that I threw at him was quickly responded with how things technically went. As a matter of fact, I had to frequently steer him back down to earth when he would go on tangental, extremely detailed explanations of why certain things happened and how certain things reacted the way they did often going over the heads of our audience members in the small crowd that night. ceR世界播

埃隆用最技术、最科学的方法看待自己和他周围的世界。那天晚上我问他的问题之一是详细阐述他的还原论理论,把事情浓缩成基本真理,然后从那里进行推理,并在实践中提供这个理论的一个例子。从他提供的质量控制的例子到他自己的领导风格,他把一切都建立在假设的基础上,检验它们,然后从收集数据开始前进。我向他抛出的几乎每一个基于情商的问题都会很快回答技术上的进展情况。事实上,我不得不经常引导他回到现实中来,当他会离题地、非常详细地解释某些事情为什么会发生,以及某些事情是如何反应的,就像那天晚上我们那一小群观众经常想不到的那样,我不得不经常引导他回到现实中来,因为他会继续离题,非常详细地解释为什么会发生某些事情,以及某些事情是如何反应的。ceR世界播


It was really a privilege for myself and LavaLab to share this remarkable experience. All the rumors of his charm, passion, and drive are all undoubtedly true. I would love to speak more to the content that was shared however, that was a promise made between all of us that his personal stories, both ups and downs, would stay within that room. Thank you for understanding. ceR世界播

对于我和LavaLab来说,能够分享这段非凡的经历真的是一种荣幸。所有关于他的魅力、激情和干劲的传言无疑都是真的。然而,我很愿意就分享的内容说更多的话,这是我们所有人之间的承诺,他的个人故事,无论是起起落落,都会留在这个房间里。多谢您的理解。ceR世界播


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