为什么梦幻客机如此成功? Lachie Smith 的回答火了

2020-10-14 12:26

Why is the Dreamliner so successful? dlR世界播

为什么梦幻客机如此成功?dlR世界播


Answered by: Lachie Smith,I have over 60 model aircraft in my collection. dlR世界播

回答:拉奇·史密斯,我收藏了60多架飞机模型dlR世界播


The 787 is so successful for stacks of reasons. Here’s the three biggest ones: dlR世界播

波音787之所以如此成功,原因有很多。以下是三个最大的问题:dlR世界播


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When the 787–8 was first released, it was offered at just $120 million. That sounds like a lot, but for context that’s cheaper than an A320NEO or 737MAX. It has now risen to a more responsible $200m, which still makes it one of the cheapest aircraft of its size on the market. Keep that number in your head when I tell you this next figure. dlR世界播

当787-8首次发布时,它的报价仅为1.2亿美元。这听起来很多,但就背景而言,这比A320neo或737MAX便宜。它现在已经涨到了更负责任的2亿美元,这仍然使它成为市场上同样大小的飞机中最便宜的飞机之一。当我告诉你下一个数字的时候,把这个数字记在你的脑海里。dlR世界播


The Airbus A350–900 (the smallest one available) sells for only $318 million. Yes, it’s a bit bigger than a Dreamliner, but even then it’s still as expensive as a 777–300ER, which is larger. dlR世界播

空客A350-900(目前最小的一款)售价仅为3.18亿美元。是的,它比梦幻客机大一点,但即便如此,它仍然和更大的777-300ER一样贵。dlR世界播


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Still one of my favourite political cartoons due to its simplicity. dlR世界播

由于它的简洁性,它仍然是我最喜欢的政治漫画之一。dlR世界播


It’s important to mention at this point the A330NEO. That aircraft will come up a lot in this answer, because unlike the A350, it is the Dreamliner’s direct competition. The A350 was meant to kill two birds with one stone for the 777X and 787, but was later redesigned to be larger and more competitive to the 777X, leaving Airbus the painful task of rushing the A330 upgrade to fight the Dreamliner. dlR世界播

在这一点上值得一提的是A330neo。这款飞机将在这个答案中提到很多,因为与A350不同的是,它是梦幻客机的直接竞争对手。A350本打算对777X和787一举两得,但后来被重新设计成更大,更具竞争力,让空客面临着匆忙升级A330以对抗梦幻客机的痛苦任务。dlR世界播


On a price point, the A330NEO is cheaper than the 787. dlR世界播

在价位上,A330neo比787便宜。dlR世界播


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As many people know from the A220, MD-10, or A380, a plane is more than a plane. It is an investment. I love sitting around and watching, talking about, and reading about planes but the truth is that the people who actually buy them couldn’t care less. As you’ll see soon, the 787 performs super well and has so many other features that make it such an awesome aircraft, but aside from maybe a promotional picture in their office the airline executives don’t really care about those things. dlR世界播

正如许多人从A220、MD-10或A380中知道的那样,一架飞机不仅仅是一架飞机。这是一项投资。我喜欢坐在那里看飞机,谈论和阅读关于飞机的事情,但事实是,真正购买飞机的人根本不在乎。你很快就会看到,波音787的性能非常好,还有许多其他功能,使它成为一架如此令人敬畏的飞机,但除了办公室里的一张宣传照之外,航空公司高管并不真正关心这些事情。dlR世界播


Politics, I would argue, matter more than MTOW, training, cost, or anything else. They are the most important selling point of any plane. Just look at Qantas: they’ve been offered a plane with nearly the same cockpit as their current 787s, with better performance and MTOW, that has more route flexibility, and the option down the road to replace their A380s with a larger variant. Do you think they’re choosing the A350–1000ULR because it looks pretty? Because it has commonality with their aging A330s? Because passengers will find the cabin nicer? Of course not. Airbus has most likely placed a huge discount on this aircraft and with the media attacking Boeing, they have no choice but to preselect it. We can only hope they make the right choice. dlR世界播

我会争辩说,政治比MTOW、培训、成本或其他任何事情都更重要。它们是任何飞机最重要的卖点。只要看看澳航就知道了:他们得到了一架驾驶舱与目前的787几乎相同的飞机,性能更好,最大起飞时间(MTOW)更好,航线更灵活,未来还可以选择用更大的机型取代他们的A380。你认为他们选择A350-1000ULR是因为它看起来漂亮吗?因为它和他们老化的A330有共性吗?因为乘客会觉得机舱更好吗?当然不是。空客很可能在这款飞机上打了很大的折扣,在媒体抨击波音的情况下,他们别无选择,只能预先选择。我们只能希望他们做出正确的选择。dlR世界播


So why is the 787 so good with politics? dlR世界播

那么,为什么波音787如此擅长政治呢?dlR世界播


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Because the Dreamliner is barely an American plane at all. 13 companies from Korea, Japan, Italy, Canada, Sweden, England, France, and Australia, as well as five states of the USA all build various parts of this aircraft. So which airlines have a lot of 787s? Korean Air, JAL, ANA, Air Canada, WestJet, British Airways, Virgin Atlantic, Air France, AF/KLM, Qantas, Jetstar, and four massive American airlines (NorthWest and Continental being the other two). dlR世界播

因为梦幻客机根本就不是一架美国飞机。来自韩国、日本、意大利、加拿大、瑞典、英国、法国和澳大利亚的13家公司以及美国的5个州都制造了这架飞机的各个部件。那么哪些航空公司有很多787飞机呢?大韩航空、日航、全日空、加拿大航空公司、西捷航空公司、英国航空公司、维珍大西洋航空公司、法国航空公司、AF/KLM公司、澳航公司、捷星航空公司和四家大型美国航空公司(另外两家是西北航空公司和大陆航空公司)。dlR世界播


In addition, Bangladesh, Brunei, Mexico, Saudi Arabia, and (kinda) Vietnam governments all use 787s for private use. Thus Bangladesh Airways, Royal Brunei, AeroMexico, and Saudia were all pressured to order this aircraft. dlR世界播

此外,孟加拉国、文莱、墨西哥、沙特阿拉伯和(有点)越南政府都将787飞机用于私人用途。因此,孟加拉航空公司、文莱皇家航空公司、墨西哥航空公司和索迪亚航空公司都迫于压力订购了这架飞机。dlR世界播


All of these various countries who had involvement or interest in the Dreamliner series were inclined to buy the aircraft. dlR世界播

所有这些参与或对梦幻客机系列感兴趣的国家都倾向于购买这种飞机。dlR世界播


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This is by far the biggest reason the 787 was popular. Many people today compare it to the A330NEO and A350, which is all well and good, but you have to remember that in 2008 the three closest competitors to the 787 were the A330, A340, and A380. dlR世界播

到目前为止,这是波音787广受欢迎的最大原因。今天许多人将其与A330neo和A350相提并论,这一切都很好,但你必须记住,在2008年,与787最接近的三个竞争对手是A330、A340和A380。dlR世界播


The A330 competed for capacity. In this regard, the two aircraft were very similar however the 787–8 has slightly less seats than the A330–200 and the 787–9 has more seats than the A330–300 (the release of the 787–10 was again to mainly compete with the A350–800, but when the Dreamliner was first released it was only the -8 and -9). dlR世界播

A330在运力方面展开了竞争。在这方面,两架飞机非常相似,但787-8的座位比A330-200略少,787-9的座位比A330-300多(787-10的发布再次主要是为了与A350-800竞争,但当梦幻客机首次发布时,它只有-8和-9)。dlR世界播


The A340, particularly the -500, competed for range. The A340–500 has a bit more range than the 787 (more than any other aircraft at the time), however has much more seats and absolutely flopped in terms of efficiency and sales. A lot of those sales were also lost to the 777NG and A380. dlR世界播

A340,特别是-500,在航程上进行了竞争。A340-500的航程比787略大(比当时的任何其他飞机都多),但座位要多得多,在效率和销售方面绝对失败。其中很多销量也被777 NG和A380抢走了。dlR世界播


The A380 competed for efficiency. Per seat, it’s the most efficient out of the 787’s three early Airbus competitors. Of course per mile or per hour it’s not, but that’s a different story.The A380 did what the original 747 did to the 707 in the 1970s - it allowed airlines to buy one plane instead of two. Why would you have two daily flights from Sydney to Singapore on the A330 or 787, when you could have one heavily discounted flight that produces the same profit margin?Ultimately, the A380 did steal sales from at least one Dreamliner customer: Lufthansa. But even then, the production run of the 787 was so long that they had time to order 787s even after their A380s had been delivered, flown, and placed into pre-retirement storage. dlR世界播

A380在效率方面展开了竞争。每个座位上,它是波音787早期三个空客竞争对手中效率最高的。当然,每英里或每小时都不是,但那是另一回事了。A380做了20世纪70年代最初的747对707所做的事情-它允许航空公司购买一架飞机,而不是两架。既然一架A330或787可以提供同样利润率的大幅打折航班,为什么还要每天有两个航班从悉尼飞往新加坡呢?归根结底,A380确实从至少一个梦幻客机客户那里抢走了销售额:汉莎航空(Lufthansa)。但即便如此,波音787的生产运行时间如此之长,以至于他们有时间订购787,即使在A380已经交付、飞行并放入退役前的仓库之后也是如此。dlR世界播


What you have to consider is that the 787 did something that nobody thought was possible - seat fewer people than a 777 with even more comfort, fly further than a 747 with half the fuel capacity, and be so profitable that airlines have placed their second and even third blocks of orders. dlR世界播

你必须考虑的是,波音787做了一件没有人认为可能的事情-比波音777座位更少,更舒适,比波音747飞行得更远,燃油容量只有747的一半,而且利润如此丰厚,以至于航空公司已经下了第二块甚至第三块订单。dlR世界播


And it’s not just the long-haul efficiency that turned heads. dlR世界播

吸引眼球的不仅仅是长途运输的效率。dlR世界播


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Those two GEnX-1B turbofans, combined with enough lift and drag reduction to fly a skyscraper, and a fuselage so light it practically floats, result in one of the best performing widebody airliners in history. dlR世界播

这两个GEnx-1B涡轮风扇,加上足够的升力和减阻,足以飞行一座摩天大楼,以及轻巧到几乎可以漂浮的机身,导致了历史上性能最好的宽体客机之一。dlR世界播


In fact, the Dreamliner’s flying display at Farnborough Air Show 2014 was so hectic and impressive that the aircraft brought on a new set of rules dictating how manoeuvres should be performed to prevent other planes from crashing. dlR世界播

事实上,梦幻客机在2014年范堡罗航展上的飞行表演是如此忙碌和令人印象深刻,以至于飞机引入了一套新的规则,规定应该如何进行操纵,以防止其他飞机坠毁。dlR世界播


There’s other factors like range, efficiency, speed, comfort, simplicity, modernity, and many more that influenced the Dreamliner’s success. dlR世界播

还有其他因素,如航程、效率、速度、舒适性、简洁性、现代性等等,都影响着梦幻客机的成功。dlR世界播


But the simple fact remains: the Boeing 787 is the new widebodied 737. In fact, the 787 is such a successful plane that countless airlines like Norwegian Air Shuttle, Bamboo Airways, and ZIPair have used 787s to launch their long-haul fleet, moving from A320s or MD-80s to Dreamliners because they’re essentially just a very big 737. dlR世界播

但简单的事实仍然存在:波音787是新的宽体737。事实上,波音787是一架如此成功的飞机,以至于无数航空公司,如挪威航天飞机公司、竹子航空公司和ZIPair公司都使用787来推出他们的长途机队,从A320或MD-80转向梦幻客机,因为它们本质上只是一架非常大的737。dlR世界播


So that’s why the 787 is such a spectacular success. dlR世界播

这就是波音787取得如此巨大成功的原因。dlR世界播


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希望这个能帮上忙!dlR世界播


Edit: I really don’t care if you think I’m biased towards Boeing. The question was “why is the Dreamliner successful”, not “what do you think of the Dreamliner”. Honestly, I’m actually happier because it means you took the time to read my answer. So why don’t you share it with all your friends and tell them what a horrible answer this is? Maybe upvote it so more people can be aware of how awful it is? ;) dlR世界播

编辑:我真的不在乎你是否认为我偏向波音。问题是“梦幻客机为什么成功”,而不是“你对梦幻客机有什么看法”。老实说,我其实更高兴,因为这意味着你花时间看了我的答案。那你为什么不把它分享给你所有的朋友,告诉他们这是一个多么可怕的答案呢?也许可以给它加码,这样更多的人就能意识到它有多糟糕?;)dlR世界播

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