牧师约翰·麦克阿瑟表示,任何真正相信基督的人都会在11月投票给唐纳德·特朗普。人们对此有何感想? Jerry Olsen 做出了回答

2020-10-14 08:03

Pastor John MacArthur has stated that any true believer in Christ will vote for Donald Trump in November. How do people feel about that? Jcg世界播

牧师约翰·麦克阿瑟表示,任何真正相信基督的人都会在11月投票给唐纳德·特朗普。人们对此有何感想?Jcg世界播


Answered by: Jerry Olsen,B.S. Mathematics & Computer Science Jcg世界播

回答者:Jerry Olsen,数学与计算机科学学士Jcg世界播


I’m a Christian who once attended Grace Community Church (where John MacArthur is Pastor) for about 20 years. MacArthur has long been considered a respected Bible teacher. Jcg世界播

我是一名基督徒,曾参加过恩典社区教堂(约翰·麦克阿瑟是那里的牧师)约20年。麦克阿瑟长期以来一直被认为是一位受人尊敬的圣经老师。Jcg世界播


Here are some bits from a MacArthur sermon called “The Destructive Sin of Lying”: Jcg世界播

以下是麦克阿瑟的一篇名为“撒谎的破坏性之罪”的布道中的一些片段:Jcg世界播


In the last several weeks, as a nation (and certainly across the world) we have been overexposed to the extensive pattern of deception and lying engaged in by our president. To put it mildly, this is greatly disappointing to all of us who would have hoped that a man of character and a man of conviction and a man of integrity would have arisen to such a prominent and critical place of leadership. Jcg世界播

在过去的几周里,作为一个国家(当然是全世界),我们过度暴露在我们总统从事的广泛的欺骗和撒谎模式中。说得婉转些,我们所有人都很失望,希望一个有品格、有信念、有正直的人会出现在如此显赫和关键的领导位置上,这对我们所有人来说都是非常令人失望的,因为我们都希望能出现一个有品格、有信念、有诚信的人。Jcg世界播


What we have come to find out, however, is that we have a man in the White House who has for his life a habit in which he has engaged and that habit is a habit of lying and deception and hypocrisy. Some of that evidence is known to all of us. There is even other evidence that is known to some of us because of private conversations with people behind the scenes. Suffice it to say everybody across the world now, to one degree or another, is aware that this is a leader who is a liar. Jcg世界播

然而,我们发现,我们在白宫有一个人,他一生都有一个习惯,这个习惯就是撒谎、欺骗和虚伪的习惯。其中一些证据是我们大家都知道的。由于与幕后人士的私下交谈,我们中的一些人甚至知道了其他证据。可以说,现在世界各地的每个人都或多或少地意识到,这是一个撒谎的领导人。Jcg世界播


The extent of the lying is amazingly widespread. The president, on a number of occasions, has denied ever encouraging anyone else to lie. And yet, in seeking the aid of everybody close to him to help him carry out the deception, he has brought all the people who touch his life into the potential category of joining him in the lie. His wife has lied for him, his friends, his cabinet, his White House staff, loyalists, the media has lied for him, congressmen have lied for him, senators have lied for him. He has lied and deceived, and he has embroiled all kinds of people in lies and deception. Jcg世界播

谎言的范围之广令人吃惊。总统在多个场合否认曾鼓励任何人撒谎。然而,通过寻求身边每个人的帮助来帮助他进行欺骗,他已经把所有接触到他生活的人都带入了潜在的类别,加入了他的谎言。他的妻子为他撒谎,他的朋友,他的内阁,他的白宫工作人员,忠诚者,媒体为他撒谎,国会议员为他撒谎,参议员为他撒谎。他撒过谎,骗过人,把各式各样的人都卷入了谎言和欺骗之中。Jcg世界播


… Now, the people in this country don’t seem to think this serious. But I’m not really interested in their opinion, for the moment. What I would like to know is what does God think about this? What has He said about it? To put it simply, to have a ruler who is a liar is an extremely serious matter. In Proverbs 29:12, God says, “If a ruler is given to lies” - this is translated a number of ways, but this is the basic Hebrew of it, “If a ruler is given to lies, all his servants become wicked.” We would put that in the simple category of “birds of a feather” - what? - “flock together.” Jcg世界播

…。现在,这个国家的人们似乎并不认为这是认真的。但就目前而言,我对他们的意见并不真正感兴趣。我想知道的是上帝是怎么想的?他对此说了些什么?简单地说,有一个说谎的统治者是一件非常严重的事情。在箴言29:12中,上帝说,“如果一个统治者喜欢说谎”--这句话被翻译成很多种方式,但这是它的基本希伯来语,“如果一个统治者喜欢谎言,他所有的仆人都会变得邪恶。”我们会把它归入简单的“物以类聚”--什么?--“聚在一起。”Jcg世界播


When a ruler is given to lies, he will accumulate around him people who can tolerate lying. A corrupt leader draws around him corrupt people. Allow lies, and you will be tolerated and surrounded by liars. It’s frightening to think about the possibility that the president might remain in office and then to ask the question “What kind of people, given the knowledge of his deception and lies, would want to be a part of his staff?” Jcg世界播

当一个统治者习惯于撒谎时,他会在他周围聚集能够容忍谎言的人。腐败的领导人把腐败的人拉到身边。允许撒谎,你就会被容忍,被骗子包围。想一想总统可能留任的可能性,然后问这样一个问题:“在知道他的欺骗和谎言的情况下,什么样的人会想成为他的工作人员的一部分,这是令人恐惧的。”Jcg世界播


Seems pretty accurate right? It sure sounds like MacArthur is adamant that a Christian should not support a President who lies! Jcg世界播

看起来相当准确,对吧?听起来麦克阿瑟固执地认为基督徒不应该支持说谎的总统!Jcg世界播


Note that this was a sermon he taught in 1998 in reference to Bill Clinton. If anything, it is much more applicable now regarding the serial adulterer and liar Donald Trump. Jcg世界播

请注意,这是他在1998年讲授的一篇关于比尔·克林顿的布道。如果说有什么不同的话,那就是现在对于连环通奸和骗子唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)来说,这一点更适用。Jcg世界播


I was deeply disappointed when I learned four years ago that MacArthur threw his support behind Donald Trump, brushing aside his many adulteries, swindles, and lies. It struck me as blatant hypocrisy, considering his earlier remarks about Clinton. Jcg世界播

四年前,当我得知麦克阿瑟支持唐纳德·特朗普,对他的许多通奸、诈骗和谎言置之不理时,我深感失望。考虑到他早先关于克林顿的言论,我觉得这是赤裸裸的虚伪。Jcg世界播


Now, I am beyond disappointment. I am shocked that he has made this statement equating the eternal salvation through Christ with voting Republican! I consider it blasphemous, and at some level (at least based on his other teachings in the past), MacArthur knows better than to say this. Jcg世界播

现在,我已经大失所望了。我感到震惊的是,他把通过基督的永恒救赎等同于投票给共和党人!我认为这是亵渎神明的,在某种程度上(至少根据他过去的其他教义),麦克阿瑟知道不应该这么说。Jcg世界播


Donald Trump is clearly an extremely vulgar man posing as a Christian for political gain. He seeks and receives support from prominent Christian leaders (Jerry Falwell Jr., Franklin Graham, James Dobson, David Jeremiah, and now John MacArthur). He has a “Spiritual Advisor” who is a nutjob named Paula White who has said, “To say no to President Trump would be saying no to God”! Even MacArthur has called her a heretic. Trump welcomes having Christian leaders ascribe to him Christ-like terms (e.g. “the anointed one”). He went to great lengths to have a photo taken of himself standing in front of a church holding up a Bible. This is flagrant pandering to Christians. Jcg世界播

唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)显然是一个为了政治利益而冒充基督徒的极其粗俗的人。他寻求并接受了杰出的基督教领袖(小杰里·福尔韦尔,富兰克林·格雷厄姆,詹姆斯·多布森,大卫·耶利米,现在是约翰·麦克阿瑟)的支持。他有一位名叫保拉·怀特(Paula White)的疯子,他有一位“精神顾问”,他说:“对特朗普总统说不,就是对上帝说不!”就连麦克阿瑟也称她为异教徒。特朗普欢迎基督教领袖将类似基督的术语归因于他(例如,“受膏者”)。他不遗余力地让人拍了一张自己站在教堂前举着一本圣经的照片。这是明目张胆地迎合基督徒。Jcg世界播


According to the Bible, Christians are supposed to denounce and expel lying false Christians like this because if we accept and uphold them, we will corrupt the church. Jcg世界播

根据圣经,基督徒应该像这样谴责和驱逐说谎的假基督徒,因为如果我们接受和拥护他们,我们就会腐蚀教会。Jcg世界播


Allowing this corruption of the church clearly dishonors Christ, but now MacArthur is saying that this is what “all true Christians must do”. Jcg世界播

允许这种教会的腐败显然是对基督的侮辱,但现在麦克阿瑟说这是“所有真正的基督徒都必须做的”。Jcg世界播


MacArthur justifies his statement primarily by citing the abortion issue. I addressed my stance on that here: Jerry Olsen's answer to How has Donald Trump changed you? Jcg世界播

麦克阿瑟主要以堕胎问题为自己的说法辩护。我在这里阐述了我的立场:杰里·奥尔森(Jerry Olsen)对唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)如何改变你的回答?Jcg世界播

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