“Parveen Babi按照她自己的规则生活,”为她写传记的作者说

2020-10-14 14:01

'Parveen Babi lived life by her own rules,' says author who wrote her biography Fnb世界播

“Parveen Babi按照她自己的规则生活,”为她写传记的作者说Fnb世界播


“Parveen Babi lived life by her own rules” Fnb世界播

“帕文·巴比过着她自己的生活”Fnb世界播


Author of the memoir Parveen Babi – A Life, Karishma Upadhyay, reveals how mental health issues can plague even the most successful. Fnb世界播

回忆录“Parveen Babi-A Life”的作者Karishma Upadhyay揭示了精神健康问题如何困扰着最成功的人。Fnb世界播


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Parveen Babi in Amar Akbar Anthony Fnb世界播

阿马尔·阿克巴尔·安东尼的Parveen BabiFnb世界播


Bold and bohemian, Parveen Babi symbolized the ‘free spirit’ of the ‘70s. Unapologetic about her lifestyle and unabashed about her relationships, she came across as a woman who lived by her heart. Fnb世界播

帕文·巴比大胆而放荡不羁,象征着70年代的“自由精神”。她对自己的生活方式毫无歉意,对自己的人际关系毫不掩饰,给人的印象是一个用心生活的女人。Fnb世界播


A mind, which couldn’t withstand the scrutiny that came with stardom. A mind that couldn’t handle the insecurity that each relationship was fraught with. A woman, who retreated into an alternate reality when the immediate became too threatening. Fnb世界播

一颗无法经受住明星身份带来的审视的头脑。一种无法处理每段关系都充满的不安全感的心态。一个女人,当眼前的情况变得太危险时,她退回到另一个现实中。Fnb世界播


Author Karishma Upadhyay has chronicled the life and times of the tragic star with empathy and dignity. Minutely researched, Parveen Babi: A Life, is not just about her descent into madness, it’s as much about her hard-earned ascent to fame. Fnb世界播

作家Karishma Upadhyay以同理心和尊严记录了这位悲剧明星的生活和时代。细致入微的研究,“帕文·巴比:一生”不仅仅是关于她堕落到疯狂,也是关于她来之不易的成名之路。Fnb世界播


Here are some excerpts from a chat with the writer. Fnb世界播

以下是与作者交谈的一些摘录。Fnb世界播


What made you attempt a book on such a controversial figure as Parveen Babi? Fnb世界播

是什么让你尝试写一本关于帕文·巴比这样有争议的人物的书?Fnb世界播


I didn’t know much about Parveen Babi. When the publishing house (Hachette India) approached me, a friend of mine, who belonged to the ‘70s, urged me to take it up. Fnb世界播

我对帕文·巴比知之甚少。当出版社(阿歇特印度出版社)找到我时,我的一位属于70年代的朋友敦促我接受这本书。Fnb世界播


My initial research revealed that though Parveen had quit the industry twice, the best of directors and banners were still willing to work with her, even if they had lost money due to her disappearance. Perhaps, it was her basic professional discipline that made them bet on her. Fnb世界播

我最初的研究显示,尽管帕文已经两次退出这个行业,但最好的导演和横幅仍然愿意与她合作,即使他们因为她的失踪而赔钱。也许,正是她的基本职业纪律让他们把赌注押在了她身上。Fnb世界播


That fascinated me. I’ve tried to give equal weightage to her career in the book as well. Fnb世界播

这让我着迷。我也试着在书中对她的事业给予同等的重视。Fnb世界播


What were the challenges you faced while writing the book? Fnb世界播

你在写这本书的过程中遇到了哪些挑战?Fnb世界播


It’s been long since Parveen passed away. Neither is anyone from her family whom you could trust – people who wouldn’t lie about her. I had to crosscheck the various stories. Fnb世界播

帕文去世已经很久了。她的家人中任何你可以信任的人也不会-那些不会在她身上撒谎的人。我不得不反复核对各种故事。Fnb世界播


For instance, a college friend of her’s said that she did drugs, while some said she never touched drugs. Then some friends, as mentioned in the book, said that she had the habit of piling up dirty clothes in the hostel. I had to double check that. Fnb世界播

例如,她的一个大学朋友说她吸毒,而有些人说她从来没有碰过毒品。然后,书中提到的一些朋友说,她有在宿舍里堆放脏衣服的习惯。我得再检查一遍。Fnb世界播


There was a lot of information that I had to edit out as it couldn’t be authenticated. I reached out to Alumni Association of St Xavier’s College in Ahmedabad. Fnb世界播

有很多信息我必须编辑掉,因为它不能被认证。我联系了艾哈迈达巴德的圣泽维尔学院校友会。Fnb世界播


That’s how I came to know Jyotsna, her friend and senior by one year in college and Donald, who remained one of Parveen’s closest friend. Fnb世界播

就是这样,我认识了乔特斯纳,她的朋友,比她大一岁的大学学生,以及唐纳德,他仍然是帕文最亲密的朋友之一。Fnb世界播


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Indian actor Kabir Bedi kissing his partner Indian actress Parveen Babi. Rome, 20th January 1979 (Photo by Mario Notarangelo/Mondadori via Getty Images) Fnb世界播

印度演员卡比尔·贝迪亲吻他的伴侣,印度女演员帕尔文·巴比。1979年1月20日,罗马(Mario Notarangelo/Mondadori通过Getty Images摄)Fnb世界播


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Parveen with Amitabh Bachchan in Majboor Fnb世界播

Parveen与Amitabh Bachchan在MajboorFnb世界播


What’s been the response like? Fnb世界播

人们的反应如何?Fnb世界播


I have received praise from fellow journalists and editors. But most importantly, Parveen’s fans have remarked that the book has dealt with her condition empathetically. Also, that it was incredibly well-researched. That was my mission. People assumed it would be scandalous. But I’ve just stated the facts. It’s up to people to make their own inferences. Fnb世界播

我得到了同行记者和编辑的赞扬。但最重要的是,帕文的粉丝们评论说,这本书对她的病情处理得很到位。而且,它研究得非常周密,令人难以置信。那是我的任务。人们认为这将是可耻的。但我刚刚陈述了事实。这取决于人们做出自己的推论。Fnb世界播


There are also those who felt that Parveen’s story was told from the lens of the men in her life. Some said that her films should have been touched upon more. I’m open to criticism. Everyone has their own viewpoint. Fnb世界播

还有一些人认为帕文的故事是从她生活中的男人的视角来讲述的。一些人说,她的电影应该被更多地触及。我愿意接受批评。每个人都有自己的观点。Fnb世界播


What did you discover about her as a woman? Fnb世界播

作为一个女人,你对她有什么发现?Fnb世界播


Once she tasted freedom after leaving her hometown Junagadh to study in Ahmedabad, Parveen went on to live life by her own rules. Fnb世界播

在离开家乡朱纳加德到艾哈迈达巴德学习后,一旦她尝到了自由的滋味,帕文就继续按照自己的规则生活。Fnb世界播


Even after her psychotic breakdown, in a certain way, she still chose to live life her way. People say she was so successful, so beautiful. So how she could be so ill! But people with schizophrenia can seemingly lead normal lives. Fnb世界播

即使在她精神崩溃之后,在某种程度上,她仍然选择了自己的生活方式。人们说她是如此成功,如此美丽。她怎么会病得这么厉害!但是精神分裂症患者似乎可以过上正常的生活。Fnb世界播


Our understanding about the condition is limited. Parveen painted in those years, she wrote out legal documents in legal language – though of course that was part of her mental state. I also realised that people still love her years after she’s gone. That she had garnered a lot of goodwill. Fnb世界播

我们对这种情况的了解是有限的。帕文在那几年画过画,她用法律语言写法律文件--当然,这是她精神状态的一部分。我还意识到,在她去世后的几年里,人们仍然爱着她。她赢得了很多好感。Fnb世界播


Even producers, who had lost money due to her illness, spoke warmly about her. Fnb世界播

即使是因为她的病而赔钱的制片人也对她赞不绝口。Fnb世界播


While writing the book, were you emotionally affected by your subject and her travails? Fnb世界播

在写这本书的时候,你对你的主题和她的痛苦有没有情感上的影响?Fnb世界播


One of my trainings as a journalist demands that you keep yourself emotionally distanced. Fnb世界播

作为一名记者,我接受的一项培训要求你在情感上保持距离。Fnb世界播


But I did feel incredibly sad at the thought that her body lay unclaimed in the morgue with other unclaimed bodies of people who had died in accidents. Fnb世界播

但一想到她的身体和其他在事故中死亡的无人认领的人的身体一起躺在停尸房里,我确实感到难以置信的悲伤。Fnb世界播


Admirably, the three men in her life – Danny Denzongpa, Kabir Bedi and Mahesh Bhatt – were all present at her funeral. Fnb世界播

令人钦佩的是,她生命中的三个男人-丹尼·登宗帕、卡比尔·贝迪和马赫什·巴特-都出席了她的葬礼。Fnb世界播


Late producer Johny Bakshi described the scene beautifully to me. He said at the kabrastan, there were few people. But when he turned around, he saw the three men, Danny, Kabir and Mahesh, standing together. He thought it was an extremely powerful moment. Fnb世界播

已故制片人约翰尼·巴克什向我描述了美丽的场景。他说,在哈普拉斯坦,几乎没有人。但当他转身时,他看到丹尼、卡比尔和马赫什三个人站在一起。他认为这是一个极其重要的时刻。Fnb世界播


All three had played significant roles in Parveen’s life. Danny had continued his friendship with Parveen even through her mental illness. With Kabir, she had the opportunity to witness a world beyond Bollywood. And Mahesh was the one who had first recognised her illness and helped her in every way he could. Fnb世界播

这三个人都在帕文的生活中扮演了重要的角色。即使帕文患有精神疾病,丹尼也一直与她保持着友谊。有了卡比尔,她有机会见证宝莱坞以外的世界。马赫什是第一个意识到她的病情并尽其所能帮助她的人。Fnb世界播


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Parveen with Amitabh Bachchan in Majboor Fnb世界播

Parveen与Amitabh Bachchan在MajboorFnb世界播


How can her obsession with Amitabh Bachchan be explained? Fnb世界播

如何解释她对Amitabh Bachchan的痴迷呢?Fnb世界播


What I got to understand through my conversations with Mahesh and Danny was that Amitabh Bachchan was the No. 1 hero and she wanted him to be part of her career. Having said that, the signs of her obsession were there even before she had to drop out of Silsila (1981) as is mentioned in the book. Fnb世界播

通过与马赫什和丹尼的谈话,我了解到阿米塔布·巴克昌是头号英雄,她希望他成为她职业生涯的一部分。话虽如此,她痴迷的迹象甚至在她不得不从书中提到的西西拉(1981)辍学之前就已经出现了。Fnb世界播


Even today mental health in the film industry is a matter of debate… Fnb世界播

即使在今天,电影业的精神健康仍然是一个有争议的问题。…。Fnb世界播


It’s important to talk about and understand mental health. Families ignore it, hide it. Fnb世界播

谈论和了解心理健康是很重要的。家人忽略它,把它藏起来。Fnb世界播


A person can suffer mental health issues in any industry. But the scrutiny in showbiz is much more as is the uncertainty as compared to a corporate job. Fnb世界播

一个人在任何行业都可能遭受精神健康问题。但与公司工作相比,娱乐圈的审查要多得多,不确定性也要大得多。Fnb世界播


So, here the probability of facing mental health problems is more. Mental illness is also genetic. If you have the tendency, then it becomes even more difficult in showbiz. Fnb世界播

所以,在这里,面临心理健康问题的概率更大。精神疾病也是遗传的。如果你有这种倾向,那么在娱乐圈就会变得更加困难。Fnb世界播


What makes the journey worthwhile? Fnb世界播

是什么让这趟旅行值得呢?Fnb世界播


When people write to me saying that the book was waiting to be written, all the madness of the years seems worthwhile. Fnb世界播

当人们写信给我说这本书正等着我写的时候,这些年来所有的疯狂似乎都是值得的。Fnb世界播


My deadline for writing this book was a year. It stretched to three years. Then it was to be launched in January this year. Fnb世界播

我写这本书的截止日期是一年。这段时间延长到了三年。然后,它将在今年1月推出。Fnb世界播


But it was finally released now in this scenario – where there’s a parallel ongoing debate on mental health. This is uncanny. Fnb世界播

但它最终是在这个场景中发布的-在这个场景中,有一场关于心理健康的平行正在进行的辩论。这太不可思议了。Fnb世界播

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